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How to make a working key for the padlock?

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How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby atikin » 19 Dec 2008 10:29

I have some "practice" padlocks. But I have not a keys for a lot of them. How can I do a working key for them? Is it possible at all?
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby n2oah » 19 Dec 2008 11:37

Do they have removable cores?
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby MacGyver101 » 19 Dec 2008 11:53

We'd need to know more about the cylinder you're talking about. Padlocks run the gamut, from cheap $1 locks that will open if you stuff the right blank in, to very expensive high-security locks that are nearly impregnable.
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby atikin » 19 Dec 2008 15:10

n2oah wrote:Do they have removable cores?

Em... I don't think so.

Tere are some photos:
Here are my locks with names. I think it's pretty cheap locks, so I don't think there're a high-security pins.
http://www.imageup.ru/img6/locks-00376479.jpg
There are the keyholes.
http://www.imageup.ru/img6/locks-00476480.jpg
There are a keys, that fits in some of locks.
http://www.imageup.ru/img6/locks-00876484.jpg
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Reason: Changed img tags to links due to large pic size.
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby atikin » 19 Dec 2008 15:12

Sorry about the size of pictures. I thought, it'll fit into browser window. :oops:
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby greyman » 19 Dec 2008 16:45

Wow, what a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG window :wink:

Methods
1. impression a key for them on a prepared blank, then cut a proper key.
2. Pick, then dismantle the padlocks by drilling the plugs or slide that hold the pins in. You will need to replace the plugs on reassembly.
3. Pay a locksmith!
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby Olson Burry » 19 Dec 2008 17:08

Its wolfdog!

I have a wolfdog, he's a bit worse for wear actually but nevermind.

You'll be out of luck finding blanks for most of those I should think,
let alone new cores.

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Get super quick at picking them perhaps so you can do it faster than with a key anyway?

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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby n2oah » 20 Dec 2008 1:07

It's really not cost effective to make keys for those locks. Buying new ones will save you time and money. I suppose you could try to learn impressioning, but that takes time and skill.
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby atikin » 20 Dec 2008 4:44

But how can I impression the inside of the lock? o.0
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby Major Boothroyd » 20 Dec 2008 4:54

Those locks aren't that expensive and you could probably get new ones for about 20-40 shekels (about 5-10$ USD). Give Impressioning a try if you can get your hands on a file, otherwise not much you can do.
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby Major Boothroyd » 20 Dec 2008 5:04

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1396

You can also find many document's and videos explaining the process on the internet if Varjeal's guide isn't enough.
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby atikin » 20 Dec 2008 11:36

Thanks for help, guys! :wink:
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby raimundo » 23 Dec 2008 11:28

The keyways appear to be Yale 999 variants, just as abus uses, the key blanks shouldn't be hard to find, then you can cut a knife edge on the top of the blanks, and bind right bump up, bind left bump up bind right bump down bind left, bump down, etc The impressioning drill, you'll find threads on it here.

I cheat when impressioning, I pick the lock and while the cylinder is turned, I feel for the deep and shallow pins, Then I can be careful not to over cut the shallow ones and I can swag cut the deep ones a bit, (swag= scientific wildass guess) This moves the process along more quickly

Always come prepared to break a few blanks when impressioning, even if your so good you seldom need to, you want to have them just in case. In impressioning, a broken blank shouldn't stop you.
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby zeke79 » 23 Dec 2008 14:37

raimundo wrote:I cheat when impressioning, I pick the lock and while the cylinder is turned, I feel for the deep and shallow pins, Then I can be careful not to over cut the shallow ones and I can swag cut the deep ones a bit, (swag= scientific wildass guess) This moves the process along more quickly



That's pretty funny Rai. I use that same method on master locks such as the ball locks for hitches, etc. I usually just do my best to determine what cut the front pin is and then by feel with my pick gauge the rest of the pins. Usually takes me just a couple of minutes to have a key made that way.
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Re: How to make a working key for the padlock?

Postby atikin » 24 Dec 2008 7:18

I didn't understand anything, but thank you. I only understood, that the best way is to buy a new locks...
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