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by atikin » 19 Dec 2008 10:29
I have some "practice" padlocks. But I have not a keys for a lot of them. How can I do a working key for them? Is it possible at all? Thanks! 
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by n2oah » 19 Dec 2008 11:37
Do they have removable cores?
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by MacGyver101 » 19 Dec 2008 11:53
We'd need to know more about the cylinder you're talking about. Padlocks run the gamut, from cheap $1 locks that will open if you stuff the right blank in, to very expensive high-security locks that are nearly impregnable.
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by atikin » 19 Dec 2008 15:12
Sorry about the size of pictures. I thought, it'll fit into browser window. 
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by greyman » 19 Dec 2008 16:45
Wow, what a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG window Methods 1. impression a key for them on a prepared blank, then cut a proper key. 2. Pick, then dismantle the padlocks by drilling the plugs or slide that hold the pins in. You will need to replace the plugs on reassembly. 3. Pay a locksmith!
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by Olson Burry » 19 Dec 2008 17:08
Its wolfdog! I have a wolfdog, he's a bit worse for wear actually but nevermind. You'll be out of luck finding blanks for most of those I should think, let alone new cores.  Get super quick at picking them perhaps so you can do it faster than with a key anyway? 
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by n2oah » 20 Dec 2008 1:07
It's really not cost effective to make keys for those locks. Buying new ones will save you time and money. I suppose you could try to learn impressioning, but that takes time and skill.
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by atikin » 20 Dec 2008 4:44
But how can I impression the inside of the lock? o.0
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by Major Boothroyd » 20 Dec 2008 4:54
Those locks aren't that expensive and you could probably get new ones for about 20-40 shekels (about 5-10$ USD). Give Impressioning a try if you can get your hands on a file, otherwise not much you can do.
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by atikin » 20 Dec 2008 11:36
Thanks for help, guys! 
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by raimundo » 23 Dec 2008 11:28
The keyways appear to be Yale 999 variants, just as abus uses, the key blanks shouldn't be hard to find, then you can cut a knife edge on the top of the blanks, and bind right bump up, bind left bump up bind right bump down bind left, bump down, etc The impressioning drill, you'll find threads on it here.
I cheat when impressioning, I pick the lock and while the cylinder is turned, I feel for the deep and shallow pins, Then I can be careful not to over cut the shallow ones and I can swag cut the deep ones a bit, (swag= scientific wildass guess) This moves the process along more quickly
Always come prepared to break a few blanks when impressioning, even if your so good you seldom need to, you want to have them just in case. In impressioning, a broken blank shouldn't stop you.
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by zeke79 » 23 Dec 2008 14:37
raimundo wrote:I cheat when impressioning, I pick the lock and while the cylinder is turned, I feel for the deep and shallow pins, Then I can be careful not to over cut the shallow ones and I can swag cut the deep ones a bit, (swag= scientific wildass guess) This moves the process along more quickly
That's pretty funny Rai. I use that same method on master locks such as the ball locks for hitches, etc. I usually just do my best to determine what cut the front pin is and then by feel with my pick gauge the rest of the pins. Usually takes me just a couple of minutes to have a key made that way.
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by atikin » 24 Dec 2008 7:18
I didn't understand anything, but thank you. I only understood, that the best way is to buy a new locks...
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