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how to open those kind of lock?

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how to open those kind of lock?

Postby trixrabbit » 25 Jan 2009 20:54

Hi, I'm new to this forum i just started lockpicking.
I bought your recommanded tool kit but i didnt receive it yet.
I pratised myself with a small lock i had. (ABUS lock) --> pretty easy to unlock.

*im using a litle peiee of metal from pen and a paper pin

Here is my problem, i wanna lockpick my room door lock...and i don't know how.
Can you guys help me or tell me what tool to use,etc please

I can show you a pickture of the key.
There is both side of the key...as you can see the is litle circle on sides, does it change something?
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Re: how to open those kind of lock?

Postby barbarian » 25 Jan 2009 21:29

Please don't try to pick it. You can really mess up a lock sometimes and make it so that the key won't work anymore. Also if it's part of a master key system, it's almost guaranteed you will need to call a locksmith to repair it. He will know what happened.

I don't think you could pick that lock without some real tools.
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Re: how to open those kind of lock?

Postby cppdungeon » 25 Jan 2009 22:36

Interesting key, but as the previous poster said, don't pick locks in use. If you want to see if the side dimple bits matter, check a room mates key or a friend who has a key to the same system. If they have them, its probably important.

That said, it probably is master keyed, meaning that it has two shear lines. I also have a collection of sargent locks, and you really do need picks to pick them. I suggest you make some (use the search button) or buy some (search for more info).

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Re: how to open those kind of lock?

Postby wolfie » 25 Jan 2009 23:13

if im seein that right, those are sidebar dimples and you won't be picking that puppy for some time, start simple n work up ;) kwikset is your friend.
we all try our hardest at what we do, it's the great ones that understand its not what you do, it's how you do it and accomplish it and embrace there strength despite anyone's opposition.
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Re: how to open those kind of lock?

Postby trixrabbit » 25 Jan 2009 23:37

kwikset?

So i can't lockpick this??
i'd like to know how cuz it's like the only lock near me...and since im studying and i dont have a car i can't go buy locks..

When i'll have my tools ( the 8 parts tool kit) would i be able to do it?
is it pretty much the same principle for every lock?

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Is there somewhere on the forum that says how to open different lock? i have a weird lock...i dont remember the name
but you can't put presure with your wrench because it just turns...like a bering.

Thank you

PS: i really want to be able to open my eoom door lol...i forget my keys sometimes and it gets me in trouble
(EX: when i go take a shower)
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Re: how to open those kind of lock?

Postby Squelchtone » 26 Jan 2009 0:28

trixrabbit wrote:PS: i really want to be able to open my eoom door lol...i forget my keys sometimes and it gets me in trouble
(EX: when i go take a shower)


listen n00b, we do not pick locks that are mounted on doors and that do not belong to us. It is one of the most important rules we follow as hobby lockpickers that distinguishes us from looking like criminals. If you have that ABUS padlock, then you still have something to practice on. You can also walk to a store near your university and buy more locks.

And honestly, are you telling us that you are going to remember to carry your lockpick tools when you go take a shower, when you can't even remember your dorm room keys? cmon.... give us a break. :roll:

We have users here with the same kind of question every few months; in fact I already started a thread of people who were picking the lock on their house, apartment, dorm room, office door, and ended up breaking or getting the lock in a stuck position. So as we have told people before you, and as I am sure we will tell n00bs after you, resist temptation of picking every lock you walk past, and don't pick the dorm room lock, because it belongs to the school not to you.

This hobby might not be for you if you run around like a bored teenager who cannot control which lock he picks.

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Re: how to open those kind of lock?

Postby Jaakko » 26 Jan 2009 0:34

trixrabbit wrote:i have a weird lock...i dont remember the name
but you can't put presure with your wrench because it just turns...like a bering.

Sounds like an Abloy :)
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Re: how to open those kind of lock?

Postby trixrabbit » 26 Jan 2009 12:19

that's not really what i was especting as answer...but w/e thank you i guess

i just wanted to know if there is a special way to lockpick locks with sidebars.
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Re: how to open those kind of lock?

Postby Dak » 26 Jan 2009 19:05

trixrabbit wrote:that's not really what i was especting as answer...but w/e thank you i guess

i just wanted to know if there is a special way to lockpick locks with sidebars.

yes the way you pick locks with sidebars is a simple 3 step process.

Step 1: Practice picking pin tumblers for as long as you can mentally handle (about 1 year)

Step 2: study locks with sidebars.

Step 3: Buy a lock with a sidebar and practice s'more

???????

profit
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Re: how to open those kind of lock?

Postby amaze1 » 26 Jan 2009 21:54

Dak wrote:
trixrabbit wrote:that's not really what i was especting as answer...but w/e thank you i guess

i just wanted to know if there is a special way to lockpick locks with sidebars.

yes the way you pick locks with sidebars is a simple 3 step process.

Step 1: Practice picking pin tumblers for as long as you can mentally handle (about 1 year)

Step 2: study locks with sidebars.

Step 3: Buy a lock with a sidebar and practice s'more

???????

profit

Only the underpants gnomes know about step 4
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Re: how to open those kind of lock?

Postby jpb06080 » 26 Jan 2009 22:19

The key you have in the picture looks to be sargent signature, which is a high security lock. Even if it was yours, picking it would be quite difficult.
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Re: how to open those kind of lock?

Postby trixrabbit » 27 Jan 2009 22:19

Dak wrote:
trixrabbit wrote:that's not really what i was especting as answer...but w/e thank you i guess

i just wanted to know if there is a special way to lockpick locks with sidebars.

yes the way you pick locks with sidebars is a simple 3 step process.

Step 1: Practice picking pin tumblers for as long as you can mentally handle (about 1 year)

Step 2: study locks with sidebars.

Step 3: Buy a lock with a sidebar and practice s'more

???????

profit

thank you that'S what i wanted to know.
Is there a guide on this forum to see how to open locks. I bought i lock with a strange key and i can't lockpick it. (well with my pin and wrench) so i think that we can't get all locks by luckt here should be a technic and i would like to learn this.
I dont know if you understand what i mean.... i speant like 1 week on the same lock and i couldnt open it, then i checked the key and it's very weird...
thank you for helping me start
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Re: how to open those kind of lock?

Postby sparkster » 28 Jan 2009 1:36

Your trying to run before you can walk, if this lock is the only one you have and you have no idea abt it i can suggest a couple of things to do.
Put that lock away for a later date, if you have not got a car, then use the legs god gave you, its called walking, go and buy yourself a kwikset lock, these are basic beginners locks and should start you on the way to becoming proficient, there is no quick fix to picking a lock, you will only learn by practicing and gettting an understanding of how locks work.
One week on the same lock is not really long enough, what have you learnt in that week? you dont appear to have learnt anything abt it except the fact you still cannot open it or even figure out where to begin with it, forget the side bars, forget trying to open this lock at the moment, I'm not having a go at you m8, i'm just trying to add some further advice to what has already been given.
So back to my opening comment, your trying to run before you can walk, read some of the posts on this board, the information is here for beginners, there is no quick fix for what you want to know, practice and patience young grasshopper :)
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