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by Stonebreaker » 27 Jul 2010 17:42
I just started picking padlocks a couple weeks ago although I have been collecting unusual locks for the past few years. My most unusual one is this Navy lock that I bought at the flea market, it was used for securing weapons and needs two different keys to open:    I haven't been able to pick it yet, but I haven't spent much time on it. If you have any unusual or interesting locks please post them.
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by Engineer » 27 Jul 2010 19:42
Nice first post!
Very interesting lock. I've seen a few dual-key locks, but never one like that - Thank you for posting it!
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by Squelchtone » 27 Jul 2010 21:19
I knew your photos looked familiar. I saw them on your blog about 2 years ago when I was writing a paper on military padlocks. http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/2007/02/set-157.htmlI don't think you'll be picking that lock any time soon unless you can pick 6 pin Medeco cylinders. It uses the same cylinders as the S&G 831 padlock. NAPEC: Naval Ammunition Production Engineering Center CEL: The Naval Civil Engineering Laboratory Here's a view from an old service manual:  btw, they never assigned a National Stock Number (NSN) to this model. Yours, the most common type, is a Style 1, there was also a Style 2 and Style 3.  Squelchtone
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by Engineer » 27 Jul 2010 21:25
It's been a while since I've said this Squelchtone, but you really do amaze me with the obscurity of what you know... Any chance you might donate your hard drive one day as the LP101 museum???  Seriously though, well done - I thought that really was an obscure one.
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by raimundo » 28 Jul 2010 8:24
Yah, squelchys the gotoguy on a lot of stuff, so I looked at his profile and on page 144 or his posts are his earliest ones, he was a real newbie in '06. Hes been to all the Cons, and ive been to none of them yet. he appears to have loaded with a lot of information and experience since then. He must have put in a solid lot of time at picking reseaching and collecting locks since then, as well as getting to know the other pickers here.
You too can learn a lot here, and just from squelchs posts.
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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by Stonebreaker » 28 Jul 2010 11:11
Thanks for posting the image from the service manual. My lock has three keys, two with round heads that each work in cylinders A or B, and the third has a square head that says 'control key' on it, and it just works in one of the cylinders. Under the name medeco on each of the keys is a number that has been x'ed out, and under that is a new number that has been stamped, so it looks like it's been rekeyed. I've been told that this lock is worth between $500-$1000, can someone narrow that down based on the above information? Another lock that I found at the flea market, it's a king pin lock for 5th wheel style trailers, it was very easy to pick:   Here's a lock that someone sent to me, they were looking to find its exact purpose, might be another king pin lock, anyone recognize it?  This combination lock belongs to a friend:   
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by Squelchtone » 28 Jul 2010 11:29
You see those 2 holes in your shackle? they were for permanently mounting the shackle to the hasp, and in order to open the door, you removed the padlock body, not the hasp. The padlock would simply drop down and there would be room to separate the hasp parts. I have an instructional manual drawing of it kicking around here somewhere.
The XXX's over the numbers on the keys meant that they were retired from use. Not sure if it meant that it was rekeyed. Sometimes you'll see numbers X'd out and new number above them or next to them, meaning they just renumbered the keys based on the in house chart they kept in their key cabinet. (This is based on afaik (as far as I know) info.) Your keys bother me because I don't believe your lock needed a square head control key.. You just remove the shackle and then use a punch to knock out that small pin on the side of the lock and remove the cover. So you might be right that the keys came from another lock such as 831 which used the same keyway but also used a square head control key. If your control key also has a notch cut out of the keyblade near the bow, that makes it a Hi-Shear LK1200 padlock control key, I've seen these get mixed with 831 padlocks before.
I'd have to see your keys in order to see how beat up, cracked, bent they are in order to estimate an accurate street value for the padlock, but having the 3 keys already makes it worth more than $500. There are some of these floating around in the collector circles, so it's certainly not one of a kind, but it is not as plentiful on ebay as an old 831 or even a newer 833 padlock. If the keys were original, I'd look past $500, but if they are not, then it will probably top out around that price. $350-$500. Maybe $500 to $700 if the keys you have are pristine and didnt have the XXX's on them. This is all based on my personal experience and opinion, so your mileage may vary.
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by Stonebreaker » 28 Jul 2010 18:12
Thanks for the further information on the lock, the keys are in good shape other than the x'ed out numbers, I'm not planning to sell it but if I ever do I'll let everyone know.
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by Squelchtone » 28 Jul 2010 20:20
Stonebreaker wrote:Thanks for the further information on the lock, the keys are in good shape other than the x'ed out numbers, I'm not planning to sell it but if I ever do I'll let everyone know.
hoarder! sell it, sell it, sell it, sell it! =) it's not as aesthetically nice looking as your other pieces.. you should just get rid of it, its so bulky and cold looking.. I'll even cover shipping. how about $79 to your paypal.. cmon.. that's A LOT of Pabst Blue Ribbon beer! let us know when you're done fapping to it, so that we can buy it and fap to it. Thanks! Squelchtone
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by Dak » 5 Aug 2010 20:49
heres a video of the lock http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n79/ ... U00149.flv I got it because of two things i greatly enjoy, locks... and batman. So my dad found me a "bat-lock". Its a chinese thing. Suposed to be an antique. fun little thing.
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