Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

Question about Bogota technique.

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
Forum rules
Do not post safe related questions in this sub forum! Post them in This Old Safe

The sub forum you are currently in is for asking Beginner Hobby Lock Picking questions only.

Question about Bogota technique.

Postby Bladen » 11 Jan 2012 11:47

Hi,
I'm trying to understand EXACTLY what the nervous/twitchy technique is mentioned in so many posts about the Bogota picks.

I'll try my best to explain what I'm doing so you can add your input and let me know what I should try to improve.

What I do is use a slight-twitchy up and down motion while pushing the rake towards the back of the lock.
Then I do the same thing coming out of the lock.

Is this the right idea at all?

I know if it works then it is the right idea...and it does work.

I would just really hate to fall short of the full potential of this pick set.

Please be as detailed as possible.
I'm also interested in any other technique used with the Bogotas.

Thanks in advance.
Bladen
 
Posts: 27
Joined: 23 Dec 2011 14:55
Location: Northern MN.

Re: Question about Bogota technique.

Postby MacGyver101 » 11 Jan 2012 12:19

These other threads have some good tips, with pretty specific advice... I'm not sure if you've read these?


I'm sure there are other good ones: those were just the first few Google results.
Image
User avatar
MacGyver101
Moderator Emeritus
 
Posts: 1560
Joined: 21 Jun 2006 14:40
Location: Toronto, Canada

Re: Question about Bogota technique.

Postby Bladen » 11 Jan 2012 14:16

Yeah, I've read these. There really isn't much detail at all.
I've searched youtube and here on LP101 endlessly.

"jittery" "panicky" " too much coffee" and even "being "blanked" off by a person with epilepsy" don't even begin to describe anything really.

My version of epilepsy and yours might be different things.

A "rounded" motion or a "nervous" motion did help me to learn but they are still quite vague.

Maybe one of you fine people would make a video.
A guy can only hope.

Just the same, thank you for your post.
I know how easy it can be to miss things that got caught up in the shuffle around here.
Bladen
 
Posts: 27
Joined: 23 Dec 2011 14:55
Location: Northern MN.

Re: Question about Bogota technique.

Postby Squelchtone » 11 Jan 2012 15:03

Bladen wrote:Yeah, I've read these. There really isn't much detail at all.
I've searched youtube and here on LP101 endlessly.

"jittery" "panicky" " too much coffee" and even "being "blanked" off by a person with epilepsy" don't even begin to describe anything really.

My version of epilepsy and yours might be different things.

A "rounded" motion or a "nervous" motion did help me to learn but they are still quite vague.

Maybe one of you fine people would make a video.
A guy can only hope.

Just the same, thank you for your post.
I know how easy it can be to miss things that got caught up in the shuffle around here.


This is going to be a case of finding what works for you. Watching a video of me or Schuyler jiggling a Bogota won't let you now how much tension were holding on the wrench, or if you're wobbling the wrench from light to medium tension or how high we're lifting the pins. I don't want to get all zen on this, but it is something you will learn by doing over time and only if you imagine what is going on inside the lock as you're doing it. It may take you months or years to get good with Bogotas.. A youtube video won't make you an expert in a week. My personal method is raking back and fourth, in an oval motion, like the piston of an old timey locomotive moves to drive the front wheels.

Know what changes the pin angles on a Medeco lock very well? the 3 hump Bogota =)

good luck and keep practicing,
Squelchtone
Image
User avatar
Squelchtone
Site Admin
 
Posts: 11307
Joined: 11 May 2006 0:41
Location: right behind you.


Return to Got Questions? - Ask Beginner Hobby Lockpicking Questions Here

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests