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Fortress Frustration

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Fortress Frustration

Postby Aldenrenfrid » 21 May 2012 8:02

I typically keep an eye out for locks that have what look like difficult bitting. I figure if I practice on those, then I'll get better overall.
The other day however I snagged a lock with some rather extreme bitting and its giving me fits. I've picked many of the fortress locks before, though I'll freely admit its been a while. and this one feels... strange. The difficulty I keep running into is the first pin binds and sets quickly and easily, (I almost wonder if there's a spool pin somewhere in the back 3 tumblers) but getting a hook, halfdiamond, or anything else past the second without oversetting it is a bear. And on the rare occasion I can manage it I feel stupid, because I can barely, no, being honest I can't feel the back pins at all. I was thinking about trying to set the back two, over set the second, and set the first, then go in with a sharp extraction tool and try to 'drag' the overset pin back down... Any other ideas?
I'm enjoying the challenge, but golly gee, This ones tougher than I'd have thought from a fortress.
Heres a pic, I'm not worried about showing the key as this is simply for practice.
[img=400x250]http://i.imgur.com/F9LWS.jpg[/img]
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Re: Fortress Frustration

Postby Aldenrenfrid » 21 May 2012 8:08

Bah, I was trying to re-size it, sorry about the oops there.
Heres a link.
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Re: Fortress Frustration

Postby Aldenrenfrid » 21 May 2012 9:24

Whew! Got it!
I tried what I mentioned above and got all the pins set, and the last over set, then managed to drag it down with the point of a half diamond.
Though admittedly, I only knew to do that from seeing the key. I guess I still have a lot of practice left.
Many thanks though for all the info wafting around here :)
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Re: Fortress Frustration

Postby clearmoon247 » 21 May 2012 9:57

One thing that could give you a bit more room while picking, to avoid the deeper pins that are up front would be top tensioning. Additionally, to quote Raimunto, make yourself a sabana for picking that bitting. looks like this ______________/\_______/\
and its made for that problem.

Here is the one that i made last night:
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