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by kerti » 16 Jun 2013 4:08
This is Russian Kerberos 308 lever lock. 8 levers. It has installed into the cover drill rsistant plate. Also it has interesting blocker. If somebody try to brake the lock stump than the lock will be deadlocked.  You can see the false notches on the levers.  Bolt plate: 1-Stump 2-Blocker lever 3-Springed blocking bolt  When the stump(1) is broken the blocker lever(1) is released the springed blocking bolt(3). And this bolt enters to engage whith these holes in lock case.  Other side of the blocking bolt chanel. 
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by kerti » 16 Jun 2013 4:09
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by GWiens2001 » 16 Jun 2013 4:48
I like that spring loaded bolt. Do you have much of a problem with the blocker breaking?
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by ARF-GEF » 16 Jun 2013 5:11
I really think the Russians seem to have very ingenious designs. At least I'm yet to see a similar solution in lock here.
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by kerti » 16 Jun 2013 5:18
GWiens2001 wrote:I like that spring loaded bolt. Do you have much of a problem with the blocker breaking?
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Yes, you are right. This is spring loaded bolt. No,the system is reliable. No false activation of the blocker usually.
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by fgarci03 » 16 Jun 2013 5:23
Kerti, that lock looks great.
I've really enjoyed the Russian lever locks you've been posting. This one has an ingenious system! Keep up the good work, and thanks for posting!
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by kerti » 16 Jun 2013 5:26
ARF-GEF wrote: the Russians seem to have very ingenious designs.
Many interesting designs of the lever locks only.(5-6 exceptions) The quality of old equipment do not give the possibility to produce eurocylinders whith high quality and new design. To buy new equipment have no sense. Chineese cylinders and locks are very cheap.
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by kerti » 16 Jun 2013 6:38
fgarci03 wrote:Kerti, that lock looks great.
I've really enjoyed the Russian lever locks you've been posting. This one has an ingenious system! Keep up the good work, and thanks for posting!
Thank you! I will be to try find more interest locks in future.
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by ARF-GEF » 16 Jun 2013 15:18
Many interesting designs of the lever locks only.(5-6 exceptions) The quality of old equipment do not give the possibility to produce eurocylinders whith high quality and new design. To buy new equipment have no sense. Chineese cylinders and locks are very cheap.
Good point! Are imported European cylinders rare in Russia?
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by kerti » 17 Jun 2013 9:52
ARF-GEF wrote:Many interesting designs of the lever locks only.(5-6 exceptions) The quality of old equipment do not give the possibility to produce eurocylinders whith high quality and new design. To buy new equipment have no sense. Chineese cylinders and locks are very cheap.
Good point! Are imported European cylinders rare in Russia?
Yes, relatively. In Moscow about 5-8%. In Russia <1%. Europian cylinders(Mottura,Cisa,Kaba,Evva) is expensive for usual russian. Is Kale Kilit(Turkey) europian company?:)
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by ARF-GEF » 17 Jun 2013 12:15
Is Kale Kilit(Turkey) europian company?:)
That is a good question. Geographically: Small part European most part Asian. Politically and culturally:I don't know. That is hard to answer  Probably partly.  I don't think there is a definitive answer to that...
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by kerti » 17 Jun 2013 13:07
Kale lock about 5% 
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by mechanical_nightmare » 25 Nov 2013 8:05
This is probably not the best lever lock to start out as a complete beginner in lever lock picking, but I am interested in getting some Russian lever locks to play with eventually. If Kale is found in Russia, one would think that with the amount of trade and interactions between the two countries Russian locks would be found here in Turkey, but as far as I can see that is not so.
Have you ever been to Antalya, Kerti? I have some Russian friends who live there...
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by workstation » 17 Dec 2013 18:34
Thanks for this post. (And your other Russian lock posts.)
I had seen this lock advertised on locks.ru years ago and at that time I thought the blocking mechanism was like a traditional lever lock anti-pressure device i.e. that it would resist picking by being activated by typical picking forces between the stump and the levers. But I thought as it didn't appear to have a reset mechanism it would be vulnerable to vandalism or to serious accidental lock-outs if you tried to use the wrong key.
But now thanks to your photos I see it is only designed to resist forced entry, not non-destructive opening.
Just to confirm, is that correct? You have to actually destroy or deform the stump for it to activate?
Thanks again!
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by kerti » 20 Mar 2015 16:01
mechanical_nightmare wrote: Have you ever been to Antalya, Kerti?
No.
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