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Victor safe. Lost combination

Forgot how to dial the combination on that old safe? Think you got the right numbers but the handle is stuck? What safe should you buy? Ask your safe questions here!
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Safe manipulation discussion is allowed, but safe drilling or other destructive entry is only allowed in the Advanced - Safes and Safe Locks area.

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Victor safe. Lost combination

Postby woodguy » 2 Mar 2015 15:35

I recently acquired an antique victor safe and would like to get it opened without drilling it. I could put some time into this myself but am not sure where to start. Any advice or pointers would be greatly appreciated. Ill post pictures of the safe as soon as I have a chance. Thanks in advance for any assistance anyone may be able to provide.
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Re: Victor safe. Lost combination

Postby GWiens2001 » 2 Mar 2015 20:36

Femurat has a great thread on beginning manipulation. Good place for you to start. :)

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Re: Victor safe. Lost combination

Postby mohara » 7 Mar 2015 21:23

12 years or so ago my boss's sister moved into a house and the previous owner left behind a locked 1800's Mosler safe. He brought it to our office as kind of a really heavy doorstop. I bought a cheap paperback on manipulation and was able to open it working at lunch in less than a week. It's really not that hard.

It's kind of silly that the tips section on this is locked down when that sort of knowledge is public domain.

It's a methodical process and requires note taking along the way but it's not that hard. It's like solving a logic puzzle.

I'll PM you the name of the book.
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Re: Victor safe. Lost combination

Postby Squelchtone » 7 Mar 2015 22:20

mohara wrote:It's kind of silly that the tips section on this is locked down when that sort of knowledge is public domain.



Certain things are locked down for certain reasons, and some rules and topics are always evolving and remain dynamic. Before I was an admin there was no public facing Safe area, it was all tucked away in the Advanced Topics, at least now there is a place people can ask general questions, but they should not expect unrestricted access or ability to discuss anything they feel like regarding safe opening. If you ran your own forum you'd understand the need to keep certain info restricted, especially when it comes to a touchy subject such as lock picking and safe cracking. If we let one thing be talked about and then its just a stone's throw for people to start asking about where and how to drill a safe and why is that info such a big deal?, after all "the info is already out there" well, then those folks are welcome to go get that info "out there" or run their own forum with their own rules, it's really that simple.

Also, let's be clear on something, until places like Amazon and ebay came along, the kind of book that you have was never in the public domain, it was the sort of thing that either a locksmith had access to buy via professional publications such as Locksmith Ledger, or a book a bad guy could buy via an underground/survivalist catalog like Loompanics Unlimited, Delta Press or Paladin press or the back of Soldier of Fortune magazine. With the advent of the internet, those books, their reprints, as well as illicit PDF copies are available much more easily than they were even 10 to 15 years ago.

I believe this sort of info should be handled with care, but that's just my opinion.
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Re: Victor safe. Lost combination

Postby LockDocWa » 18 Mar 2015 22:38

Not like you care BUT I agree with you wholeheartedly Squelchtone.

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