Abus Rock 83/80 -- US vs. European variations?

[gumptrick]

So, I've been looking for a padlock body that can accept a Euro Oval cylinder, aka "Scandinavian cylinder". There is a lot of information online which suggests that the Abus Rock 83/80 accepts this type of cylinder. including official documentation from Abus. Sounds good so far.

However, the ones I have I seen appear to take a "snowman" sort of cylinder instead. Bosnianbill and lockpickinglawyer both have videos showing this lock disassembled and the cylinder is clearly not the Oval.

So it seems that there may be a difference between the US marketed 83/80's and the Euro market version of the same lock? Or perhaps the design was changed at some point? Can anyone confirm?

[GWiens2001]

Gumptrick, This post should answer your questions.

The search button is pretty cool!

Any other questions that may not be in that thread?

Gordon

[gumptrick]

Perfect, thank you!
I did search before posting but for some reason I never came across that topic.
The oval cylinder you posted there--is that the Vitess model? Or something different?

And in case anyone is curious, I have seen a few vendors offering the US version with a higher security core than the default 5-pin one. Securitysnobs offers it with Bilock or Protec2. Lockitt offers the Vitess and the 888 core. I am sure there are others.

[GWiens2001]

The oval core is an Abus Pfaffenhain Y14 Deltus.

Gordon

[Ralph_Goodman]

I did search before posting but for some reason I never came across that topic.

Yes, as much as people recommend the search feature on the site, it is rarely effective for finding what you are looking for.

I always recommend using Google with your question and site:lockpicking101.com in the query. That seems to find the answers more reliably.

But in the worst case, you ask a question and get someone pointing you in the right direction. If you are fine with a bit of sarcasm and condescension, always feel free to ask.

[DangerDane]

Im pretty sure I have a 83/80 at home that takes an Oval core since i put the core in myself.