Problem!!!

[HawkEye]

hi i started lock picking for about 3 hours now, i got a keypad and i got the 3 out of the 4 pins down but my tension was a bit bad because of the thickness, whats the best to use as a tension? Flathead screwdriver??

[mcm757207]

I would suggest using a tension wrench If you don't have your own, you can produce them out of things such as windshield wiper blades and possibly hacksaw blades. Unless your flathead screwdriver is modified, it will be difficult to work with.

[HawkEye]

ok i think thats the only thing stopping me from gettin to the forth pin thanks!

[Buggs41]

Whatever tool you choose as your tension wrench, Remember to be very light on the torque applied. You don't want the pins to bind 'in' the shear line. The goal is to get them to clear it.

[Chronos]

When I was just starting and didn't have a tension wrench I found that a little screwdriver with the head bent at a 45 degree angle worked ok for me, you jsut really need to feather it seeing as it won't bend.

[HawkEye]

so when the tension wrench is in how far do i need to turn then keyhole and how far do the pins need to go in(i get the pins so they drop into the shear line is that right?) thanks agen

[Chronos]

When you insert the tension wrench you barely apply any tension at all. One finger resting on the end should be enough, sometimes too much. The bottom pins are all different sizes, so how far you need to push them varies from pin to pin, you can tell when they are pushed high enough because the lock will make a little clicking noise as the driver pin sets, and than as you feel the bottom pin you should be able to tell the difference between gravity making it fall back down and the spring behind the driver pin. I'm not sure what you mean by "get the pins so they drop into the shear line," but one thing I have seen people do is that they expect the bottom pins to stay up after they press them up. That is not true at all, if they stay up than they have jammed and you need to release tension and start again. You press the bottom pins which in turn press the driver pins, than the bottom pins fall back down and look normal, and the driver pins get stuck on shear line.

[HawkEye]

so when i get all the pins down the plug will freely turn as if a key was in it?? il try it

[Chronos]

Exactly, when all the pins are set, you will know it.

[HawkEye]

i find that i need to put quite alot of tension to hold the pins in place if not they pop up agen, when the pins set u hear a clicking noise right??
sorry for bein a pain

[poisoned]

The amount of tension needed depends of the lock, but generally u only need a light to medium tension..

i find that i need to put quite alot of tension to hold the pins in place if not they pop up agen

Usually thats the result of using too much tension: u push the key-pin past the shearline in to the hull and because of the high tension it gets stuck in there.. >see page 15 on the MIT guide<

[poisoned]

btw, what kind of lock r u trying to pick?

[HawkEye]

its a master lock with 4 pins if that helps, its only practice tho, just wanna no how to do it 1st. its probably really easy for u pros but its my 1st time and looks very simple but its the pins that pop up. so far i only got 2 pins down that clicked in i have the problem of reaching the bac pins with my tension in the way but thanks

[Pickey]

Hawk maybe you should take a glance over the rules, swearing is not allowed here. You did it twice. Once a mod see's this, im guessing they're gonna edit it

[Romstar]

Ya know. Most of the people here are pretty smart. That's exactly what I did.

Romstar