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is metal ring on rimlock a "fixing rose"?

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is metal ring on rimlock a "fixing rose"?

Postby blueagent » 7 Jan 2020 19:23

i asked a seller if their evva rimlocks will come with the metallic ring just like my old multlock junior rimlock, seen here:
https://imgur.com/a/xoC4x3d

the seller's reply is as follows:
" it will come with a fixing rose, Hope this helps."

however when i searched for fixing rose on google images, all it shows is alot of door knobs and door handles.

so is the metallic ring on rimlock called a fixing rose?


thanks so much for your help!
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Re: is metal ring on rimlock a "fixing rose"?

Postby Squelchtone » 7 Jan 2020 19:41

This sounds like a non native English speaker using Google translate or something..

Where are you from and where was the seller from?
The photo you shared is from a strange perspective and I cannot tell if this ring is flat or three dimentional.

How would you use that ring?

use Google Image Search and look up "free spinning rim cylinder collar" is that the same as your ring? is there a spring washer inserted inside yours?
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Re: is metal ring on rimlock a "fixing rose"?

Postby blueagent » 7 Jan 2020 19:45

Squelchtone wrote:This sounds like a non native English speaker using Google translate or something..

Where are you from and where was the seller from?


the seller is based in the UK, from LocksOnline.co.uk

i'm from hong kong.

yes i meant a rim cylinder collar.
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Re: is metal ring on rimlock a "fixing rose"?

Postby Squelchtone » 7 Jan 2020 19:50

blueagent wrote:
Squelchtone wrote:This sounds like a non native English speaker using Google translate or something..

Where are you from and where was the seller from?


the seller is based in the UK, from LocksOnline.co.uk

i'm from hong kong.

yes i meant a rim cylinder collar.



here is a UK ebay seller who calls it a "fixing ring" which makes more sense, they just probably called it rose by mistake

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-Replaceme ... 2884216793
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Re: is metal ring on rimlock a "fixing rose"?

Postby blueagent » 7 Jan 2020 20:10

Squelchtone wrote:
use Google Image Search and look up "free spinning rim cylinder collar" is that the same as your ring? is there a spring washer inserted inside yours?


i tried using my old nokia cellphone to take a pic of my collar, but it always comes out very blurry, seen here:

https://imgur.com/a/ovINg6C

so here's a better pic from amazon, its definitely the exact same collar as mine.

https://imgur.com/a/fOGTqDf

there no spring washer inserted inside my old cylinder.

https://www.locksonline.co.uk/Evva-3KS- ... nders.html

i was trying to buy this evva rimlock from them, but their listing only showed an image of the rim cylinder, minus the cylinder collar. so i emailed them to inquire as to whether or not the collar would be included, but in all subsequent emails that he sent me, he tells me that a "fixing rose" will be included. i want to ask him for clarification but i don't want to make him angry because he probably would think that he already answered it.
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Re: is metal ring on rimlock a "fixing rose"?

Postby Squelchtone » 7 Jan 2020 20:25

Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me.

I see another EVVA cylinder on that site and they mention a rose, so maybe this person just calls it a rose..
https://www.locksonline.co.uk/EVVA-A5-A ... inder.html
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Re: is metal ring on rimlock a "fixing rose"?

Postby blueagent » 7 Jan 2020 20:35

Squelchtone wrote:Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me.

I see another EVVA cylinder on that site and they mention a rose, so maybe this person just calls it a rose..
https://www.locksonline.co.uk/EVVA-A5-A ... inder.html



you're right! thanks so much for looking into this for me!
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Re: is metal ring on rimlock a "fixing rose"?

Postby L4R3L2 » 8 Jan 2020 0:13

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
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Re: is metal ring on rimlock a "fixing rose"?

Postby cledry » 9 Jan 2020 22:06

Fixing rose is the term used in the UK for the collar.
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