How to increase my lockpicking skill now???

by **Ryzom** » 11 Dec 2003 2:36

Alright I can pick most any padlocks. And some of my friend's doors. However doors in general seem to be a lot more difficult than pad locks. I was curious if anyone had any practice tips to begin picking door locks.

I have done a few in a room at my school, but I had unlimited time there. I want to be able to do them like padlocks. I don't really understand why they are more difficult than padlocks.

Please I am open to anything. I can buy practice locks and such which I might add I highly recommend while learning to pick with a single hook. Thanks!

by **Chucklz** » 11 Dec 2003 15:14

As a hobbiest with legitimate intensions, you really dont have to pick door locks that are mounted. ahem....

by **Grudge** » 11 Dec 2003 17:40

Most padlocks are inexpensive and don't include many of the anti-picking features of more expensive locks. In my experience schools and Universities generally spend quite a bit on things so they will last under heavy use. This means they most likely buy pretty decent door locks too. This is probably the main reason you find them harder to pick. Also the angle that you normally pick locks from (like practicing with a padlock in your lap) often becomes habit and switching to another position sometimes throws you off.

As long as you are not breaking any laws, practicing on as many locks in as many positions possible is the best way to learn lock picking. If you feel comfortable with simpler locks, try to buy a high quality padlock, like the German Abus. They can be had on the Internet for about $20.00 and will give you more of a workout.

by **Biff** » 11 Dec 2003 18:12

also pick up a pro series master lock padlock, they have spool pins

by **Pheniox** » 11 Dec 2003 19:09

Chucklz wrote:As a hobbiest with legitimate intensions, you really dont have to pick door locks that are mounted. ahem....

yea, but picking the doors to all the closets in your room and leaving them open to scare you room-mates is always fun.

by **rakemaster** » 11 Dec 2003 19:31

Chucklz wrote:As a hobbiest with legitimate intensions, you really dont have to pick door locks that are mounted. ahem....

I don't agree with you Chucklz. I've read books on lockpicking that all
sayyou should mount the lock on a door because when you hold
it in ur hand it feels different.

Also padlocks are different than door locks because of the spring.

Anyway why should opening padlocks be considered more legitimate
than opening door locks? Lots of valuable stuff is locked with padlocks,
too.

by **JiuJitsu500** » 11 Dec 2003 19:42

Holding a door lock wasn't his intent, I think he ment to hold the lock in a vise or something else of the sort.

But I think padlocks are considered more legitimate because more people practice with them, and yes, I think more stuff is hidden behind a weak padlock.

by **Chucklz** » 11 Dec 2003 21:48

My point was not to fire up the old napalm, but rather that picking doors requires a different orientation of the body, and that well while it may be fun, its a sure way to trouble. Besides, why get all cramped trying to pick some 6 spool pinned Ruswin monster on a door, when its just as challenging in your hands while sitting in a nice chair.

by **Ryzom** » 11 Dec 2003 22:48

I like the theory about positioning, a lot of locks (around the house!) which i attempt to pick I tend to get frustrated and give up partly because the position is uncomfortable and i just can't get to some of the pins the way I would like to.

I think buying a German Abus is the next step I will check around for one online. Thanks a lot guys!

by **Ryzom** » 11 Dec 2003 22:59

sorry to reply again so soon, but is it any Abus lock? Because Abus is a german company I believe, they have diskus locks that they call Abus Diskus or German Diskus. I dunno though. Any info on the German Abus lock would be helpful!

by **Chucklz** » 11 Dec 2003 23:33

Abus locks are very common in and around big ciities. The keyway is very narrow, and the lbest approach is to put the tension wrench near the top of the keyway.

by **Ryzom** » 12 Dec 2003 0:11

but in terms of buying an Abus, which kind should i buy? or does it matter?

by **Chubby** » 12 Dec 2003 4:11

The Abus Granite & Diskus can't be picked with conventional manual picks, and they are very expensive, if you realy want a challenge and it has to be an abus padlock, I'd recommend the Abus Ec75, you can pick one up new for $10...not for the faint hearted

by **Grudge** » 12 Dec 2003 10:26

Sorry for not being clear. I was talking about something like the Abus Buffo Diskus Padlock. Only 4 pins but it is a royal pain because of the small, crooked keyway and mushroom drivers. One neat thing about the Abus Buffo is that is doesn't have a spring (like most padlocks) so it feels closer to a stiff deadbolt.

Another thread is talking about a tough Brinks shrouded shackle padlock at viewtopic.php?t=1103 It is available from WalMart.

Happy picking

by **Ryzom** » 12 Dec 2003 13:42

you wouldn't happen to know a site in the US that sells that lock in US dollars would you? I might just go out and check my local rekeying/security store. They would prolly have it. But I am a junky for Online shopping, much more convenient and not as much time going out to hunt one down.

How to increase my lockpicking skill now???

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