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by Exodus5000 » 6 Mar 2005 14:28
This technique has been discussed in pervious posts, and i've dabbled in it always with little to no success. Recently i've been playing around with it and have experienced great results.
The ripping technique is done by putting a standard amount of tension on your wrench and selecting a small half diamond. I insert the pick all the way into the back of the lock and angle it so the handle is slightly upwards. You then pull the pick out as fast as you can. Each time I put the pick in and pull it out I push a little more on the pins. It's based on the same theory that a pick gun works on.
I've always been a short hook, single pin picking man so I havn't really dabbled much in raking techniques. I have to report that i'm really amazed at how easy it is to pick even high security locks like this. I would have thought a saw tooth rake would be ideal for this job, but as of yet I have not opened a single lock ripping with my saw tooth. My best results come from the short half diamond.
I've opened pretty much every lock I own with this technique including some very difficult Best brand 6 pin cores, cores that I havn't yet been able to open with single pin picking. For locks that have security pins, this technique seems to have a harder time setting those specific pins. However, it will set all the normal pin stacks and then I just go in and finish it off single pin picking.
I decided to work on this technique after seeing Barry's video, and how all the euro's seem to prefer this technique for quick openings. Give it a try, and keep at it if you don't see results right away. It really does work, and work well.
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by JoR » 6 Mar 2005 14:42
Strangely I opened a friends door today in a few seconds with that technique.. He was quite shocked. It wasn't a brand I've heard of before so I assumed it was the low quality lock.. I'll have to try that out on some of my padlocks now.
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by digital_blue » 6 Mar 2005 14:44
Hey Exodus, I've just been trying this technique. So far no success, but I've only just begun trying. What I am curious about, though, is why you would have your pick handle tilted upward? Doesn't that cause your pick neck to push the 1st pin upward?
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by Exodus5000 » 6 Mar 2005 14:49
digital_blue wrote:Hey Exodus, I've just been trying this technique. So far no success, but I've only just begun trying. What I am curious about, though, is why you would have your pick handle tilted upward? Doesn't that cause your pick neck to push the 1st pin upward?
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My apologies, I didn't acurately convery the imagery that I wanted to. The lock I'm currently working on while writing this post is a padlock i'm holding in my hands with the pins on the lower portion of the key way. So to be more specific, I hold the half diamond with the tip of the pick angled towards the pins and the handle of the pick slightly away. If that makes more sense.
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by digital_blue » 6 Mar 2005 14:51
Yes, that makes quite a bit more sense. Thank you.
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by rayman452 » 6 Mar 2005 15:14
I read that, but isnt that still raking the pins essentially? I mean, your pulling your pic over the pins, and causing them to bind? If its not, I havent been raking, I've been ripping, whic would explain a bit...
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by bigbike » 6 Mar 2005 15:18
As I was reading I was thinking the same thing, that this is basically raking the pins rather than picking the pins.
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by digital_blue » 6 Mar 2005 15:39
I don't know if I've got all the terminology right, but as I understood it, this would be raking, whereas a quick back and forth motion would be called scrubbing. I'm only going by what I've picked up reading here and there.
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by vector40 » 6 Mar 2005 16:55
I've heard three terms -- raking, ripping, and scrubbing -- used for only two techniques. "Scrubbing" is fairly unambiguous, and consists of gentle back-and-forth motions to "push" the pins above the shear line. Raking is sometimes used to denote the same method, and sometimes to mean the same as "ripping," which involves insert the pick to the back, applying VERY gentle tension, and withdrawing it quickly so that it slides along the bottom of each pin, "tapping" it and -- with the energy imparted from your outward pull -- bouncing the driver pin upward.
I've heard it called "bouncing," as well. We need to standardize this terminology...
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by toomush2drink » 6 Mar 2005 20:41
Just to add to this thread some locks respond to a lot of tension using this technique. Its amazing how well it can work and also over come security pins.
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by silent » 6 Mar 2005 22:49
The SO sawtooth can do dammage but results for me are just insane.
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by Peaky » 7 Mar 2005 6:41
SO picks need a fine emry before use or else as silent states the burr can destroy the pins and badly mark the keyway.
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by SFGOON » 7 Mar 2005 7:47
I think that the moral of this story is "it's a good idea to learn as many picking techniques as you can" Pin by pin picking has never worked for me, for example, I prefer profile picks or ripping, but these won't work for all combinations, especailly when there's pins that are low/high. That makes me have to go pin by pin 
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by JoR » 7 Mar 2005 12:49
SFGOON wrote:I think that the moral of this story is "it's a good idea to learn as many picking techniques as you can" Pin by pin picking has never worked for me, for example, I prefer profile picks or ripping, but these won't work for all combinations, especailly when there's pins that are low/high. That makes me have to go pin by pin 
You're the same as me mate. Although recently I've been practising alot more pin by pin. Raking seems like cheating in a way.
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by kodierer » 7 Mar 2005 18:48
I use this technique with quite a bit of success on Masterlocks. Master No3 opens in about 1 second with this technique. I prefere to use the half ball to the half diamond however. Also try laying the pick flat down in the keyway once the "first pin" has been set then do your "rip"
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