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by MudSlinger » 29 Apr 2005 12:51
Hello again, I dont know the particular name for this device so I had a hard time finding it on the FAQ and searchbut I encountered it on a recently aquired Padlock Master No 27 i believe.
I have a picture but basically befor i put my precious picks into it i want to know wheather or not it is somesort of anti-pick protection or something else. Heres the pic I drew it but I assume its pretty common so I think someone will recognize it.

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by Elijah » 29 Apr 2005 12:55
I'm assuming that the cover over the plug is only there to prevent you from turning the key too far. I have seen similar covers on the plugs of a bunch of my Master locks, including my Master Smith and Wesson pistol lock. I don't think it's an anti-pick cover or anything, since the locks that have them are generally more simple and open within a minute or so =)
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by keysman » 2 May 2005 18:38
That "guard "is so you can't turn the key the wrong way or too far the "right way'
Not a picking deterent
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by vector40 » 2 May 2005 18:54
What's the point of that? Surely you can't damage it by turning it "improperly."
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by Elijah » 2 May 2005 19:27
With cheaper locks, you can have pins fall into the keyway if you turn it 180 degrees. There are numerous problems among cheap locks that can be brought out by key misuse, but i can't think of any but ONE right now =)
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by M.U.L.E » 2 May 2005 20:21
vector40 wrote:What's the point of that? Surely you can't damage it by turning it "improperly."
ya you can
overturning say an american will cause the spring to unseat and unwind.
thats y movement is restricted to 90
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by mckutzy » 2 May 2005 20:44
some master locks have them,the pro seires i think, mainly as the detent that hold the plug in the lock.
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by TOWCH » 2 May 2005 21:57
I always though it was to prevent idiots from taking a drill to the lock. It won't prevent you from drilling the pins but it would make taking an oversized bit to the plug a pain.
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by mckutzy » 4 May 2005 21:01
well its a master i wouldnt drill it. its a waste of a try. id say more but im going to stop.
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by TOWCH » 4 May 2005 22:51
Besides the obvious fact that most master locks will fall open if you look at them hard enough can you elaborate on what you ment by it's a waste of a try? I've taken apart plenty, and I've never seen anything to prevent someone with a clue from drilling one.
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by pretender » 5 May 2005 3:57
Look - nearly every lock from Master or the like - gone in around 30 seconds - the latter take that long.
You all think and want to just ruin these locks, but you invest no time - you now see great picks to do so, and you're charged hundreds of dollars...and you want perfection?
Learn to pick, or suffer through hell, and chinese locks - i offer a neat resource and quit trying..
Have fun!
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by digital_blue » 5 May 2005 12:54
pretender wrote:Look - nearly every lock from Master or the like - gone in around 30 seconds - the latter take that long.
You all think and want to just ruin these locks, but you invest no time - you now see great picks to do so, and you're charged hundreds of dollars...and you want perfection?
Learn to pick, or suffer through *, and chinese locks - i offer a neat resource and quit trying..
Have fun!

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by Mad Mick » 5 May 2005 19:07
Yah, me too! This is the second post that leaves me dizzy.
i offer a neat resource
Is that the same rotary pick that is suggested here?:
viewtopic.php?t=7633&start=15
 If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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by GateTwelve » 6 May 2005 16:36
Look - nearly every lock from Master or the like - gone in around 30 seconds - the latter take that long.
You all think and want to just ruin these locks, but you invest no time - you now see great picks to do so, and you're charged hundreds of dollars...and you want perfection?
Learn to pick, or suffer through *, and chinese locks - i offer a neat resource and quit trying..
Have fun!
As a service to you who do not speak idiot, I have taken it upon myself to translate as much as I can. I have many very stupid friends, and have gotten quite good. But I think this post uses a little different dialect that I'm not used to.
Look, nearly every lock from Master can be picked in around thirty senconds (the better ones take that long).
You all want to just get past these locks, but don't want to invest time. There are special picks for them, but they are outrageously expensive (?).
To get past these locks quickly, it is easier just to learn how to pick. *portion of text excluded due to translatative barrier*
Have fun!
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by Mad Mick » 6 May 2005 18:40
Is it just me, or does his post count appear to be dropping? At this rate, he'll have a clean slate in 11 day's time, whereupon the next episode reveals Sidney & Ms Parker hot on the trail of him investigating a rogue meter-maid. To be continued...
 If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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