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AMERICAN LOCK BUMP KEY

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AMERICAN LOCK BUMP KEY

Postby prophecy » 7 May 2005 16:38

Hello i was just wondering if any one here would happen to no a successful code for an american lock bump key. i have this american lock series 1105 that i cant pick and i would like to try a bump key to see if that would work. if any one would be able to help me it would be greatly appreciated.

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Postby digital_blue » 7 May 2005 16:43

I'm gonna go way out on a limb here, but... um... 99999?

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Postby prophecy » 7 May 2005 16:44

thxman
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Postby prophecy » 7 May 2005 16:46

do you no any tricks to picking an american?
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Postby digital_blue » 7 May 2005 16:50

You might try here:

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?t=5210&highlight=american+padlock

I found that by entering "american padlock" in the search funtion of this site. Happy picking!

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yer in the same port.

Postby raimundo » 7 May 2005 17:11

looks like quickpicks on that thread that db linked is in yer town, unless thats you too. American locks can be difficult, they are not impossible, try some wd40 on it. make it slippery. I have a single sixpin bump key for american in the common keyway, and a five pin that I have beat the head on but I am not the bumpkey expert. Jimmie is. Check matt blaze www.crypto.com for info on american locks, I think I remember him mentioning them.
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Re: yer in the same port.

Postby quickpicks » 7 May 2005 18:37

raimundo wrote:looks like quickpicks on that thread that db linked is in yer town, unless thats you too.

Nope. two completely different people.
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Postby prophecy » 7 May 2005 19:58

no quick picks is my arch rival
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Postby quickpicks » 8 May 2005 9:05

You are missing the point. It's not a contest to see who can compromise the most locks or anything in locksmithing for that matter. :roll:
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Postby omelet » 8 May 2005 17:40

american 1105 have serrated top and bottom pins. feel for the most significant setting of the pins to set correctly and not in the serrations. These have 5 or 6 pins.
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Postby Chucklz » 8 May 2005 18:43

I've run across the occasional serrated spool pin as well. Shimming is a viable option if you have the cylinder out, but even this requires a great deal of time and patience.
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Postby prophecy » 8 May 2005 18:44

hey man just so you no im kinda a noob about picking could you try to explain it in plain english? (small words plz)
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Postby stick » 8 May 2005 19:41

The possible reasons for him wanting this knowledge suddenly change dramatically.
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Postby mcm757207 » 8 May 2005 20:08

prophecy wrote:hey man just so you no im kinda a noob about picking could you try to explain it in plain english? (small words plz)


Maybe I can try to help. What he is talking about are called "Spool" Pins (which has been discussed a lot before, search to find more credible information).

Anyway, spool pins are pins made of tiny fibers like you would find on a spool of thread. These fibers are very delicate when pressure is applied directly to them (which doesn't happen with normal use of the key). They are designed so when someone trys to manipulate it with a pick, the fibers bend and jam, making the lock impossible to open even with the key. To fix this, some clever people have found that if you put a circular disk (small enough to fit in the keyway) on top of your pick, it will apply a more key-like pressure to the pin and the fibers won't bend. This is a little tricky, some have even found it is usefull to take a small half diamond and bend it. The trick is to not be pressing up the pin with a sharp edge like on a normal pick, but rather with a flat edge. Best of luck.

Like I said before, you should really search more about spool pins and other security pins because I may have a few details a tad bit wrong.
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Postby prophecy » 13 May 2005 15:26

okay guys i got my bump key but how does it work?
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