Chubb M3 Cylinder

[civicboy28]

I just had a look at a exploded picture of the new Chubb M3 Rim Cylinder.
It has angled cuts on the pins, which have to rotate the correct way to allow the side bar to slide across to allow the key to turn, as well as the normal pins/shear line.
Im just starting out as a lockie doing bits and pieces here and there, while i save up for all the equiptment i need.
I can see this lock being a pain to pick. how would you go about picking it?
Would you first rotate the pins so the side bar wants to move across, then pick the pins as normal?
or is there a different method picking? (as there seems to be an extra 3 pins at the front (to stop drilling i think), and one large one at the back...possibley for the same reason.

Any pointers or help would be great, as i don't want to go to a job with one of these and be stuck!.

below is a picture of it.
http://www.safelocks.co.uk/acatalog/Rim ... ement.html

[n2oah]

Safelocks-"Cannot be manipulated open by picks or key tools. "

There are very few people who can successfully pick these locks, they are super super difficult. If you happen to get a job with one of thesel, you'll nedd to bypass it. Most lockies will look at one of these and say "well, your pretty screwed". If you want more information about picking this type of lock, you'll need access to the advanced forums.

[Chrispy]

Similar to a Medeco. Tough locks

http://dp.penix.org/locks/cl3.html

[n2oah]

I think that is a Medeco M3 that is pictured on safelocks. I'm estimating there are >100 that can successfully pick these locks in the whole world. (I'm probably wrong)

[yippeegollies]

That is a Medeco lock. Their latest version is called M3. They (medeco) had to come out with something new after the patent had expired on their bi-axial line. Chubb has their own keyway and refer to it as a Chubb M3.

I used to work for Chubb and they were doing the same thing back then with the old standard medeco.(before bi-axial)

Yip

[jamesphilhulk2]

so i take it that the medeco lock is either the hardest lock to pick or is one of the hardest lock to pick??

[yippeegollies]

I don't even bother trying. I do a lot of work for bailiffs and when I run into one I will usually bypass it somehow, or if I have to...destroy it.(last resort)

Yip